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Ira Theos
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Posted - 2012.01.08 00:48:00 -
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Dradius Calvantia wrote:EVE is not for you
LOL, typical Eve Vet BS response as YET ANOTHER SUBSCRIBER IS LOST.
Doesn't do much for CCP's bottom line. |

Ira Theos
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Posted - 2012.01.08 00:50:00 -
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Radelix Cisko wrote:Thats bad luck friend. You should give it another go. You are going to run into blobs and far larger ships than what you have. But that is part of the game is knowing how to pick your fights. Do recon, listen to local, ask in local. This game rewards intelligence and forethought and that is how I and others here like it.
It wasn't bad luck. Everything the OP described says "Everything is working as intended."
What it is is BAD GAME MECHANICS ! |

Ira Theos
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:13:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Yuppers OP.
Unless tyou want to su** the co**s of LARGE ALLIANCE LEADERS and help in the recreation of a Communistic Slave-like Society within the game, Null is just STUPID.
A great area of the Game CCP has allowed certain Factions to to dictate just how THEY want it to operate.
After 2 years of playing I have yet to hear of anyone doing the 'Solo" in null.
It is unbalanced, strange, weird, and not worth it ATM.....if ever.
THIS THE TRUTH.
READ THIS TIPPIA, THIS IS WHY EVE IS CRAP!
(I am apparently not the only one that thinks so.) |

Ira Theos
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:19:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ira Theos wrote:READ THIS TIPPIA, THIS IS WHY EVE IS CRAP! Because people make up stuff that isn't true? Well, don't listen to them then, and it stops being crap. Not posting in all caps also helps from what I've heard.
and anything posted by "Tippia" is automatically BS by definition... So I guess I'll just ignore you. |

Ira Theos
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:30:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:I was thinking about just leaving this thread because I was making a genuine point about how stupid EVE and every other MMORPG's PvP is but the amount of rage coming from mainly goons was too funny to resist so I'll respond to a particular phrase that keeps being thrown around these forums without any real meaning called "Instant Gratification" here's why they're full of crap.
. These players are claiming that I, as a miner am taking the instant gratification route when everyone agrees mining is tedious, boring and you don't get a lot of ISK from it
. These players fly ships specifically designed to gank people for easy kills in ships, they don't go around picking fights they can't win ( I thought EVE PvP was supposed to be balanced, if it wasn't why couldn't you go and pick a fight with someone supposedly more powerful than you? How can they be more powerful than you in the first place just because they paid subscription a bit longer? It doesn't make sense ;) ) and they gate camp stargates which are CCP made chokepoints designed to funnel players through 0.0 for easy kills
. We are fully aware there are botters in 0.0 space that alliances own, this is cheating, so they aren't even playing the game honestly
. You boast about the risk in 0.0 space, yet people say once you get past the gate camps it is almost completely empty, so this means as long as the gate camps are up indiscriminately ganking every stranger who tries to pass through it will be safer than high sec space
. Rewards are much bigger, while this is debatable especially with incursions being recently put in, if you own the space and are ganking anyone else except your friends then you pretty much get all the rare ore, rats and missions you could ever want of course there are incursions as well to consider in 0.0 space though I don't know whether it gives out more or less ISK than high security
. It has been reported 0.0 alliances used exploits in EVE without telling CCP about them so yet again they could cheat their way to billions of ISK without having to do any of the grinding
Now I know you lot need to take your pent up sexual frustration out on something, but it's pretty sad when you decide to make several pages of thread quite literally almost at once and then try to discredit said person by claiming "EVE is not for you, noob, instant gratification player" etc. etc. when you all go around cheating through the game and when you find no ones playing by your rules anymore because low and behold this game is still a sandbox. You decide to take your frustration out on the only area left where players who just want to play the game are left.
Valei, you are pretty much SPOT ON ON ALL POINTS. I've played Eve for six years, run everything I can with my 100 million plus skillpoints, been everywhere from Jita to Deep Zero as neighbors of BOB... and I agree with everything you have said here. Why am I saying this as a "Bitter Vet" when I am supposed to line up with the rest of Vet's who are sucking tit off the RMT Plantations? Because I hate the Plantations and every twisted stupid mechanic of CCP's that they have used to totally ruin the sovereignty game in Zero. It is sad what they have done to Eve. It's killing subscription growth and killing revenue. Ultimately it will kill Eve. In my case, Eve is no long worthy of my real cash and I just pay for PLEX with isk. |

Ira Theos
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:39:00 -
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sYnc Vir wrote:Null Sec is not for pvp. Its for Sov Blob warfare and Nullbearing, with that o so overpowered moon mining.
If you actually want to pvp theirs this wierd ass place called Low Sec. Embrace it before ccp kills it off for good.
THIS is also the truth!
(Again, I'm not the only one that thinks current mechanics are crap!) |

Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.08 01:48:00 -
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Killstealing wrote:plexing earns ccp more money than subbing
No, actually they don't because if I was still paying cash instead (of buying plex with game isk I earned "ingame"), they would not only be receiving the money somebody else paid them for the PLEX, but they would be receiving my sub payment.
As it is now, they are only receiving the other guy's money who paid for the PLEX I use. |

Ira Theos
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Posted - 2012.01.08 22:23:00 -
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Killstealing wrote:Ira Theos wrote:Killstealing wrote:plexing earns ccp more money than subbing No, actually they don't because if I was still paying cash instead (of buying plex with game isk I earned "ingame"), they would not only be receiving the money somebody else paid them for the PLEX, but they would be receiving my sub payment. As it is now, they are only receiving the other guy's money who paid for the PLEX I use. 6 years in eve and still no idea of how plexes work, hoo boy. Better get out, this game is not for your kind~
Maybe so... but the way I play, SOMEBODY ELSE is paying for MY game, probably you, since you smell like the pay-to-win type. |

Ira Theos
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Posted - 2012.01.08 22:27:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:met worst wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Look at all these high sec pubbies pretending they know something about nullsec. Miss Harlot You will find many alts posting who DO have experience of nullsec - and left. They left because they felt they would be part of something big and fascinating when in fact they were no more than a cog in the RMT machine. If you are in a corp or alliance where you feel like a cog in an RMT machine then leave it and join another one. Anybody who thinks that all nullsec alliances are the same is an idiot. I'm not saying there are no bad alliances in nullsec but people who join one and get discouraged and then give up are the last people that should be commenting on the state of 0.0.
Why? Because you are an idiot who thinks they are not involved in RMT?  |

Ira Theos
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Posted - 2012.01.08 22:29:00 -
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met worst wrote:Andski wrote:i was solo roaming in ~MY HOUND~ and i ran into a sensor boosting hurricane. i chuckled, decloaked and started firing torps at him
he instalocked me and volleyed me with his 720s that is COMPLETELY UNFAIR aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Goon Solo Lie
Truth That! |

Ira Theos
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Posted - 2012.01.08 22:30:00 -
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met worst wrote:Andski wrote:why would I play eve online (a world-class spaceship game lol) solo when i can invite any number of my jabber bros to join me in playing eve online
answer that Derp. Answered.
Priceless !
Well Andski, he shot you down there nicely.    |

Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.08 22:32:00 -
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Regam Voss wrote:Just wanna ask one question.
If NO ONE goes to null anymore WHY are there huge fleet fights there ALL the time?
p.s @ OP I was in null 2 days ago, know what i did when jumping into a gate camp? I turned on my MWD and left.
You haven't been paying attention. They are there working as peasant farmers defending their overlords RMT Plantations. |

Ira Theos
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Posted - 2012.01.09 17:13:00 -
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Dr Karsun wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:I was trying to get to a 0.0 agent that I wanted to do missions for, feel free to tell me an ideal way that doesn't involve millions of ISK loss? Getting to a 0.0 agent is easy... Take a bomber or even just a cov ops frig with a cloak and just go. It's not likely anyone will manage to catch you on the way, unless it's really a huge gang with interceptors to decloak you. It's the survival during the mission you want to run that is a problem. But my recipe -> if you can't beat them, join them. And if you can't join them, join their big brother / their enemy. Someone will take you under their wings and allow you to kick ass. It's not like people don't want active members, they do! But it's actually hard to find noob players who'd just like to join a 0.0 corp with 0.0 space of their own to rat AND join their pvp ops, even if those ops are only on weekends.
1)You CAN'T beat them, your ONLY choice is to join them.
2) Yeah, we know, it's really hard to find good slaves these days.
What an exciting prospect for a new subscriber! How totally unappealing.
That is exactly what is preventing Eve from growing in subscription numbers. |

Ira Theos
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Posted - 2012.01.10 03:59:00 -
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Leeroy McJenkins wrote:Ira Theos wrote:
1)You CAN'T beat them, your ONLY choice is to join them.
2) Yeah, we know, it's really hard to find good slaves these days.
What an exciting prospect for a new subscriber! How totally unappealing.
That is exactly what is preventing Eve from growing in subscription numbers.
1) I don't see anything wrong with this option. 2) This is true. Confirming the only way run EVE is to turn it into a WOW space clone for kids with ADD, because you have to be nice to kids with ADD. Also confirming that higher subs should always be the overriding priority, original vision and goals are overrated. It is always the wiser choice to sell out and go with the flow.
Any pilot choosing #1 shouldn't log on in the first place. They aren't even playing Eve. They are just poorly paid human bots.
Confirming that Leeroy thinks that providing game mechanics that ensure entrenched, unassailable, empires in Zero makes for good game experience. (Remember, the Goons never beat BOB, as BOB enjoyed the same unassailability and was betrayed from the inside, as were other large established groups.) What's wrong with this model is it is too favorable to metagaming "clubs" who can win through sheer numbers and RMT businesses who, if not curtailed, simply buy their way into the game, excluding gamers that don't fit their "renter" marketing model. If winning the sovereignty war in Zero is merely a question of who brings the largest metagame "club" to the table, then all the mechanics rules in Eve are irrelevent, and there is no point to even playing Eve.
He also regularly gambles in Casinos where all the tables are crooked, the dice loaded, cards marked, and the House Dealers hold all the aces. You see, Leeroy only considers it a "challenge" when it is impossible to win. Maybe the fact that Leeroy Deals for the House explains this?
The difference between you and I , Leeroy, is that I don't think new players come to Eve to work as RMT bots. As for the Goons, we all know they came to disrupt and destroy Eve and they have achieved that quite handily, I'll grant you that. |
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